How I Picked A SAAS Stock
Don’t Listen To Me, But Please, Hear Me Out: # 38
Shaheeda Abdul Kader, June 10 2021, Updated June 13 2021
How I Picked A SAAS Stock
I’ve been watching CRM (Customer Relationship Manangement) and SAAS (Software As A Service) stocks for a while. Here’s how I looked at 5 of them to decide which SAAS stocks to buy. If you follow me on twitter or you have read my previous blogs, you know that I like to pick a stock and hold for long time. Usually, between 3 and 10 years. My favorite tech stocks have all pared back their 2020 euphoric gains. So, is this a good time to buy?
I have also wanted to own Salesforce stock for a long time. It is a great company, by far the king among CRM applications for large enterprises and even SME’s. A quick glance said, they look cheap, so shall I buy?
But of course, investment resources are limited. The question always should be if I have $10,000 to invest, where should I invest to get the biggest bang for my returns with lowest risk of losing my investments?
I looked at the following stocks to compare.
- Salesforce $CRM
- Adobe $ADBE
- Microsoft $MSFT
- Autodesk $ADSK
- Atlassian $TEAM
|Company Name||Salesforce.com, inc.||Microsoft Corporation||Adobe Inc.||Autodesk, Inc.||Atlassian Corporation Plc|
|Sector||Information Technology||Information Technology||Information Technology||Information Technology||Information Technology|
|Industry||Application Software||Systems Software||Application Software||Application Software||Application Software|
|SA Authors Covering||8||16||9||2||2|
|Wall St. Analysts||47||39||28||20||22|
Microsoft is the biggest company with a market cap of $1.9 Trillion followed by Adobe at $244 Billion, Salesforce at $219 Billion, while Autodesk and Atlassian are relative pups with a market cap of $61.5 Billion and $57.5 Billion respectively.
Look at the number of employees at each of the companies. Salesforce has over 56,000 employees whereas Adobe has less than half that at 22,500 employees. Adobe enjoys a higher market cap than Salesforce with less than half the employee strength.
Both Microsoft and Salesforce are part of the elite Dow Jones Index.
I wanted to look at stocks that meet some of the following criteria:
- SAAS: All 5 offer SAAS solutions
- CRM (Customer Relationship Management): 3 of them, Salesforce, Microsoft and Adobe, offer complete or partial solutions in CRM.
- Collaboration Tools: SalesForce, Microsoft, Adobe, AutoDesk, and Atlassian all have some sort of collaboration application. Atlassian’s main function is collaboration. Collaboration could be for sales and customer management, project and product design management, internal teams collaborations etc. You may recall that SalesForce purchased SLACK for nearly $28 Billion in 2020. Microsoft has Teams.
- High Recurring Revenue from Subscriptions: SAAS companies by design offer subscription services that translate to reliable monthly recurring revenues. High percentage of revenue for all these companies is from subscriptions. These make a company’s financial statements very strong and healthy. For example, 94% of SalesForce revenues is from subscriptions. When is the last time you thought about your Microsoft 365 Subscription? You probably have set it for autopay. In 2021, Amazon made $25 Billion from Prime Subscriptions alone.
Is The Industry Growing?
Is the industry growing? SAAS, CRM are both growing industries.
There is healthy competition from many companies who are not publicly traded. These are good signs that there is a growing and viable industry for smaller or newer players to take a punt.
What Do The Numbers Say?
As I explained in my last blog, we will look at the Financial Statements, some ratios, growth and profitability metrics.
Income Statement TTM
All the data below is TTM or Trailing Twelve Months. In other words, from the last 12 months.
What we can see immediately is that ADBE generating only 60% of the revenues that Salesforce does, has a higher market cap (See Fig 1 above). This is puzzling, so let’s keep this in mind.
ADBE leads significantly in both Revenue Per Share as well as Earnings Per Share or EPS.
ADBE also generate much higher profits with lover absolute revenues compared to Salesforce. Why do you suppose that is? Or What can we infer from this?
|Revenue Per Share||24.45||21.16||28.50||17.74||7.88|
|Net Income Avail. to Comm.||4.44B||56.02B||5.57B||1.30B||-868.47M|
Balance Sheet Statement TTM
In the balance sheet, I want to see the followimg:
- Cash and cash equivalents
- Free Cashflow (FCF)
In other words, if everything goes pear shaped, do they have sufficient cash and cash equivalent assets to pay off all their debt obligations and survive?
See the table below. In general, we want the Current Ratio and Quick Ratio to be greater than 1. (I have described how to read a balance sheets here.)
|Total Debt to Equity||14.76%||60.41%||34.75%||185.32%||190.67%|
|Short Term Debt||–||–||–||–||–|
|Long Term Debt||2.67B||50.01B||4.12B||1.64B||–|
|Debt/Free Cash Flow||0.33||1.32||0.88||1.23||–|
|Long Term Debt/Total Capital||11.30%||32.71%||25.27%||62.59%||17.14%|
As you can see, Autodesk ($ADSK) seems to have the weakest balance sheet. It carries 1.23 times debt compared to the Free Cash Flow (FCF) it generates. The Current and Quick ratios are less than 1, which means they do not have enough cash to pay off their obligations if the business should take a bad turn. Of course, these are numbers to think about. It does not mean that ADSK cannot be a good investment. We will look at growth rates to understand why.
Moreover, since interest rates are very low, it may actually benefit companies to borrow more. Counter-intuitively, certain long-term debt may actually help reduce the company’s overall cost of capital.
Cashflow Sheet Statement TTM
In the cashflow statement, we want to look at Cash from Operations and FCF. By the way, Tesla selling bitcoin for profit and generating cash DOES NOT qualify as cash from operations. Cash from operations must be from the company’s stated business. It must arise from selling its products and services. Selling Bitcoin is cash from financing activities for Tesla.
Levered FCF is cash leftover after a company pays off all its financial obligations.
|Cash Flow Statement||CRM||MSFT||ADBE||ADSK||TEAM|
|Net Operating Cash Flow||6.17B||72.70B||6.17B||1.45B||780.30M|
|Levered Free Cash Flow||8.20B||37.78B||4.69B||1.34B||836.43M|
|Cash from Operations||6.17B||72.70B||6.17B||1.45B||780.30M|
You will notice a peculiarity. Salesforce has a Net Operating Cashflow of $6.17 Billion but a higher Levered FCF of $8.2 Billion. Puzzling right? Especially since Salesforce has such a low margin. Well, turns out Salesforce’s venture arm is extremely good at picking winners. In March 2021, Salesforce reported a $2.12 Billion Annual gains from its tech investments. Some of these are Zoom, nCino, Snowflake, Auth0 etc.
I am wondering if Salesforce should Pivot to being a Venture Company? Or better, should I compare Salesforce to VC’s such as Sequoia, Khosla Ventures, Tiger Global etc., rather than SAAS companies?
This is where Salesforce really shines. Any company that can show a compounded annual growth rate of 10% or more is worth considering for investments.
You can see that all 5 are stars in this arena.
Microsoft is the oldest and biggest company, so their growth is impressive. It is harder to double $1 Million to $2 Million than it is to double $1,000 to $2,000.
|Revenue Growth (YoY)||22.63%||15.34%||17.33%||13.71%||29.10%|
|Revenue Growth (FWD)||21.96%||13.80%||16.55%||16.47%||24.98%|
|Revenue 3 Year (CAGR)||26.09%||14.75%||21.13%||22.26%||34.33%|
|EBITDA 3 Year (CAGR)||35.90%||1 9.70%||25.11%||NM||NM|
|Net Income 3 Year (CAGR)||84.87%||52.59%||43.63%||NM||NM|
|Levered FCF 3 Year (CAGR)||43.68%||22.53%||25.34%||89.99%||45.08%|
While it is the Venture Capital command to grow at any rate without worrying about profitability, I care very deeply about profitability. If a company is not profitable, but I can see a clear path to its profitability, then I will consider investing in this company.
|Net Income Per Employee||74.32%||68.38%||87.45%||91.95%||84.28%|
|Net Income Margin||19.87%||35.02%||40.68%||33.32%||-44.31%|
|Levered FCF Margin||36.71%||23.62%||34.25%||34.33%||42.67%|
|Return on Equity||11.52%||44.99%||46.36%||262.27%||-140.89%|
|Return on Assets||1.00%||13.51%||12.86%||6.44%||1.90%|
|Return on Total Capital||1.32%||19.38%||17.78%||16.02%||4.17%|
|Cash From Operations||6.17B||72.70B||6.17B||1.45B||780.30M|
|Revenue Per Employee||375.44K||877.39K||571.50K||329.60K||328.95K|
|Net Income Per Employee||78,472.25||343,650.31||247,201.99||112,808.70||-141,975.64|
Microsoft clearly hits it out of the park with profitability. It has amazing margins. Even with a huge workforce, each of Microsoft’s employees generate a whopping $877,000 in revenue and $343,000 in net income or profit.
Contrast this with Salesforce. Even thought Salesforce enjoys a great gross margin of 74%, its net margin is a paltry 4.25%. You can also see that Salesforce is far behind in both revenue and profit generated per employee. Some analysts argue that Salesforce is like Amazon in 2000’s, in that, Salesforce is investing back in it is infrastructure and building a huge moat. Salesforce spent a lot in large acquisitions and these will pay off over time. Only time will tell.
Adobe looks great in comparison. But then yesterday, I came across a company called, Photopea, built and run by a Single Founder. Photopea generated $500,000 in revenues last year. It mimics entire Photoshop suite and is FREE. The founder, Ivan Kuckir, earns his entire income for Photopea from ads.
So, I worry about the completion when it comes to Salesforce as its margins are very low. It however does have a healthy cash position of $15 Billion.
What Is Cheap To Buy?
Now that we looked at the financial health and growth factors, we must answer the all important question. Is it cheap to buy? What is a good price to buy? In other words let’s look at the valuation.
|P/E GAAP (TTM)||49.78||34.42||44.81||47.21||NM|
|Price to Book (TTM)||5.13||14.15||18.20||53.71||141.40|
|Price/Cash Flow (TTM)||35.43||26.16||39.96||41.92||74.78|
None of them are classic value stocks as their Stock Price To Earnings or P/E are all fairly high.
However, among them, Salesforce looks the cheapest as it is trading for less than 10 times its total sales. Microsoft also looks good as its Price/Sales ratio less than 12.
When To Buy?
We can never time the market, but we can make some educated guesses based on historical prices. For example, we can look at the Simple Moving Average (SMA) price over certain periods or the Exponential Moving Average EMA price over certain periods.
|52 Week High||$284.50||$262.58||$536.88||$321.13||$262.40|
|52 Week Low||$171.27||$182.25||$387.37||$215.83||$160.01|
|Price vs. 52 Week High||-16.90%||-3.81%||-5.16%||-13.23%||-12.76%|
|Price vs. 52 Week Low||38.04%||38.58%||31.45%||29.11%||43.07%|
|SMA % (20D)||3.67%||1.62%||2.57%||-0.58%||1.88%|
|SMA % (50D)||4.43%||0.59%||1.94%||-2.40%||1.18%|
|SMA % (200D)||1.01%||10.44%||5.33%||2.13%||5.35%|
Salesforce seems like it is the best priced to buy right now because it is nearly 17% below its 52 week highs and it is only 1.01% above the 200 day simple moving average price. However, it is still 38% above its 52 week low.
Microsoft doesn’t seem to be a bargain at this time because its also 38% above its 52 day week low and 10% above its 200 day SMA.
However, I believe all these 5 companies have good growth stories and depending on your risk appetite, you can take a small position and build it over time.
After reading several articles and analyses, I personally favor Microsoft and Adobe. They both have great growth prospects, solid margins as well as healthy balance sheets. My goal is to invest in good companies that have excellent growth potential and lower risks.
I will add to my Microsoft position as well as a take a small position in Adobe if there is a decent dip in price.
Salesforce is intriguing as I have been curious about Salesforce for a long time, especially since I have tremendous respect for its founder, Marc Benioff. However, I am not convinced their “infrastructure” spend and acquisitions are similar to that of the Amazon story. I worry that some of these acquisitions maybe like Peter Lynch says, “de-worsification.” I hope I will be proven wrong.
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